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Poster: BlueMtnMan Date: Jun 4, 2007 9:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Handy tip for iTunes users (for mp3 folks, not lossless only freaks)

SDH, I would add a cautionary note if you are dumping your mp3 files after transcoding with no lossless archives. The resulting ACC files can not be of higher quality than the original mp3 files.

When mp3s are created, a certain amount of audio information is removed according to alogrithms used by the mp3 encoder. This information is permanently removed and can never be retrieved. When you transcode, the ACC encoder uses different algorithms and removes additional audio information. The resulting files have less information than either encoder would have created independently. This is somewhat similar to generational loss when one copies tapes.

I'm not trying to imply your ACC files don't sound acceptable, but I would recommend anyone considering this alternative to ABX test several files segments on their best listening equipment before they dump the mp3s.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 4, 2007 10:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Handy tip for iTunes users (for mp3 folks, not lossless only freaks)

All to true, but since I no longer listen to my music through a 4 figure (in $) stereo system, I personally have a hard time telling the difference between formats and have no problem with the newly converted AAC files. For me it works out fine for personal listening, but I understand that there are those out there who CAN hear a difference.

I probably should have prefaced my original post by indicating that this was for folks who aren't very picky about playback quality. I'm just glad to have the music in ANY form.

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2007-06-04 17:46:49

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Poster: daliguana Date: Jun 4, 2007 12:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Handy tip for iTunes users (for mp3 folks, not lossless only freaks)

I converted all my lossless to mp3 a few months back (reclaiming over 150 gigs of space on my HD), but I'm wary of converting to apple's format. Can you play the apple format on other media players? How about burning to CD? I, too, listen to music either on my computer or ipod and cannot tell the difference between lossless and mp3. Maybe if I got a new Lexus I could tell...

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 4, 2007 12:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Handy tip for iTunes users (for mp3 folks, not lossless only freaks)

I believe that the AAC is not supported by all portable MP3 players. Although, with the commmercial releases, it will soon be possible to download stuff from iTunes that is of CD quality sound and able to be played on all MP3 players (EMI recently announced that they will allow all of their library on iTunes to be made available without the copy protection which has limited the amount of space that can be used for actual music and also prevented what player the files were compatible with). Again, this is all only relevant (as far as I know) to iTunes.

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Poster: daliguana Date: Jun 4, 2007 12:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Handy tip for iTunes users (for mp3 folks, not lossless only freaks)

I recently purchased the Satellite Party Ultra Payloaded EP from iTunes, but I could not move the file out of iTunes. I have an older mp3 player from Rio and it doesn't support the format. Now, I can only listen to the tracks on iTunes, which I only use for live music anyway. So, again, just a little wary of Apple. When I purchase something, I don't want to be limited to which media player I can use. Kinda off topic, I know, but just wanted to put my .02 cents in.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 4, 2007 1:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Handy tip for iTunes users (for mp3 folks, not lossless only freaks)

That has been probably the biggest negative against iTunes, but hopefully the major labels will follow EMI's lead and open their library on iTunes without the hated copy protection. All things in time.

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSWNAS271820070530
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2003727543_webitunes30.html

Good news for Pink Floyd and Stones fans.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jun 4, 2007 11:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Handy tip for iTunes users (for mp3 folks, not lossless only freaks)

Amen. If the result is acceptable to the end user then that's all that matters. I put up with some pretty hideous sounding cassettes in my collection back in the day because I happened to dig something about that partucular show. The only person you need to please here is yourself.
I don't have an i-Pod but if this format works for you, go for it.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 4, 2007 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Handy tip for iTunes users (for mp3 folks, not lossless only freaks)

"The only person you need to please here is yourself" Um, never been married?
Seriously, that about wraps it all up.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jun 4, 2007 12:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Handy tip for iTunes users (for mp3 folks, not lossless only freaks)

Lol...all too true!